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Thursday, May 21, 2009

In Case you're too Lame to watch Ill Doctrine

Here's an example of why I love J Smooth and Ill Doctrine so much. I don't give a crap about Asher Roth... In fact, I'd never heard of him before this video... but J has a way of connecting the dots for people around the tricky topic of race relations. I wish there was a way to give Ill Doctrine an internet hug.



At 5/23/2009 11:16:00 PM, Blogger lowcoolant said...

He spends a lot of time refuting himself and telling his audience what he doesn't think. It's almost anti-language. I can't stand people who speak on constant backpedal, giving advice on eggshells.

Does he by any chance have an evil twin who says direct, forceful things like "Stop paying so much goddamn attention to people who say stupid things and figure out what makes you happy and focus on that stuff before you f*cking die" ?

At 5/25/2009 08:06:00 PM, Blogger molly said...

I fucking love J Smooth.

At 6/02/2009 12:55:00 AM, Blogger Olaiya said...

My research indicates that Asher Roth might be the biggest douche bag on the face of the earth. Jus sayin. Also, I find J Smooth's argument a bit simplistic. I think as we move into a less racist state of being as a nation, racial tensions/boundaries/relationships are being subtly renegotiated all over the place. People, like our friend Mr. Roth, are pushing the envelope and finding out what flies and when they will get smacked down. And I don't think that's a bad thing. To expand on Smooth's argument about relationships, I think as we get closer to someone we suss out where the boundaries are and often show our affection and cameraderie through the mastery of pushing up to those boundaries and not crossing them. For example, the fact that you and I can joke about Dave Chapelle's "White Power!" sketch and riff on his "get back, nigger!" is a means of demonstrating (successfuly or not) that we are close enough that the potential tensions of these jokes don't phase us; we are "beyond" them. J Smooth's point is well taken; the world could always use a little more respect. But I find pushing the conventional boundaries of race-appropriateness refreshing and important on our national and personal paths toward true racial harmony.

At 6/03/2009 03:19:00 PM, Blogger John said...

I'm fascinated by the concept you're suggesting here Olaiya: that we demonstrate our "mastery" of these boundaries by pushing up against them but not crossing over.

So "edginess" is a sign of mastery... but crossing over the line makes us a "douchebag". Hmm...

And what's the best strategy for mastering the edge? Slowly approach it over the years, cautiously seeing how far you can go? Or to risk transgression, get smacked down, and learn where the boundary is based on the responses you get?

At 6/04/2009 06:21:00 PM, Blogger Olaiya said...

I think it depends on your personality. Some people are comfortable jumping in, throwing things out there and seeing what happens; they're either impervious or oblivious to possible repercussions. But I think most people push things a bit further and a bit further until they feel pretty comfortable they can navigate the "edge" without falling over. I know that's what I do. And then I'd say there's another category of folks who never go near that edge and, I would argue, do so at the expense of real intimacy (in the case of personal relationships) or understanding (in the case of race relations).

Also, I think Asher Roth's douchebaggery is less about him transgressing (there he just sounded ignorant) and more about the fact that he appears to be an arrogant, privileged, sexist, talentless, self-indulgent dumbass.

At 6/08/2009 03:27:00 PM, Blogger John said...

And... sometimes the boundary between mastery and douchiness moves. And it moves without you even knowing it! You could feel like you have a comfortable, edgy, humorous rapport with somebody on one day; and suddenly find that the person get's pissed off the next (just because they went from good mood to bad mood.)


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